[Carfreeliving] Muni tokens

suzahna poliwka spoliwka at gmail.com
Wed Apr 13 12:03:21 MDT 2005


The powell token booth is the only place now that you can buy these paper
tokens.  They sell them in booklets of ten that DON¹T" fit in your wallet
and you have to rip em off from the booklet  in front of the driver.  You
can't just tuck one away for emergency use.

I've spent some time trying to communicate with the incompetent employees of
the company under contract to sell BART tickets down in the powell station.
They said that muni didn't like their service, so they decided to stop
letting them sell muni stuff.

All of this (in addition to the tripped-out design and implementation of
light rail on 3rd) after returning to the country from europe made me very
depressed about the state of transit in this here "world-class transit
first" city.

Why doesn't DPT (aka MTA)  start enforcing bus stop parking violations? Who
would the lobby be that would fight that? Politically, I don't get it.

suzahna


On 4/12/05 2:27 PM, "David Baker" <db at dbarchitect.com> wrote:

> For whatever reasons MUNI, and for that matter BART, make it really hard
> to purchase their products.  Try buying a kids ticket for BART,
> available only at your local pawnshop, and forget about paying with a
> credit card.
> 
> It's part of the secret society of public transit users, and restricting
> access to this cabal...
> 
> db
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Joel Pomerantz [mailto:doajig at earthlink.net]
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 1:40 PM
>> To: Mike Sallaberry; Carfreeliving at livablecity.org
>> Subject: Re: [Carfreeliving] Muni tokens
>> 
>> Does that mean that they are in fact selling "tokens" but
>> they're made of paper? I haven't found them available
>> anywhere. If Muni were good at using this opportunity, they'd
>> sell as many tokens or paper-equivalent as possible,
>> promoting it like crazy and welcoming the "hoarding" for the
>> immediate income it brings in.
>> 
>> The discount is easily balanced out by the advance purchase
>> float and the tendency for many tokens to be lost or never
>> used. It's very short-sighted to resist advance discounted
>> fares of any kind I'd think.
>> 
>> I was always amazed that even before hoarding, they refused
>> to promote tokens, and made them available at so few places.
>> 
>> Joel
>> 
> 
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