[Carfreeliving] RE: Muni tokens

[David Baker]

IN THE LAND OF THE BLIND THE ONE EYED MAN IS KING.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: suzahna poliwka [mailto:spoliwka at gmail.com] 
> Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 11:03 AM
> To: David Baker; Carfreeliving at livablecity.org
> Subject: Muni tokens
> 
> The Powell token booth is the only place now that you can buy 
> these paper tokens.  They sell them in booklets of ten that 
> DON¹T" fit in your wallet and you have to rip em off from the 
> booklet  in front of the driver.  You can't just tuck one 
> away for emergency use.
> 
> I've spent some time trying to communicate with the 
> incompetent employees of the company under contract to sell 
> BART tickets down in the powell station.
> They said that muni didn't like their service, so they 
> decided to stop letting them sell muni stuff.
> 
> All of this (in addition to the tripped-out design and 
> implementation of light rail on 3rd) after returning to the 
> country from europe made me very depressed about the state of 
> transit in this here "world-class transit first" city.
> 
> Why doesn't DPT (aka MTA)  start enforcing bus stop parking 
> violations? Who would the lobby be that would fight that? 
> Politically, I don't get it.
> 
> suzahna
> 
> 
> On 4/12/05 2:27 PM, "David Baker" <db at dbarchitect.com> wrote:
> 
> > For whatever reasons MUNI, and for that matter BART, make it really 
> > hard to purchase their products.  Try buying a kids ticket 
> for BART, 
> > available only at your local pawnshop, and forget about 
> paying with a 
> > credit card.
> > 
> > It's part of the secret society of public transit users, and 
> > restricting access to this cabal...
> > 
> > db
> > 
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Joel Pomerantz [mailto:doajig at earthlink.net]
> >> Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 1:40 PM
> >> To: Mike Sallaberry; Carfreeliving at livablecity.org
> >> Subject: Re: [Carfreeliving] Muni tokens
> >> 
> >> Does that mean that they are in fact selling "tokens" but they're 
> >> made of paper? I haven't found them available anywhere. If 
> Muni were 
> >> good at using this opportunity, they'd sell as many tokens or 
> >> paper-equivalent as possible, promoting it like crazy and 
> welcoming 
> >> the "hoarding" for the immediate income it brings in.
> >> 
> >> The discount is easily balanced out by the advance 
> purchase float and 
> >> the tendency for many tokens to be lost or never used. It's very 
> >> short-sighted to resist advance discounted fares of any kind I'd 
> >> think.
> >> 
> >> I was always amazed that even before hoarding, they refused to 
> >> promote tokens, and made them available at so few places.
> >> 
> >> Joel
> >> 
> > 
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