[Carfreeliving] Will LA leapfrog San Francisco?

Wed Aug 24 15:38:59 MDT 2005

Come on folks!

While your critiques are good (as usual), progress is being made,  
good progress, and though it is difficult & far from perfect, the  
constant negativity is not very productive.  The Market Street lanes  
exist at all.  The Bike Plan has been approved.  Things are  
dramatically better for cyclists here now than when I started riding  
about 10 years ago (the Valencia lanes come to mind).  I would SOOOOO  
much rather ride my bike in SF than in LA.  Hell if you don't believe  
me, get out of our little bubble & ride your bike in Santa Clara  
County as I do every day & you'll see the difference.

I'm not saying that we can rest, or that we are done, only that you  
don't get so lost in the struggle to see that we are making GOOD  
progress.

'deep

On Aug 24, 2005, at 2:18 PM, Tom Radulovich wrote:

> Jason,
>
> A bike lane down Wilshire would be great, and if it happens before  
> we get one the length of Market Street, shame on San Francisco.  
> Wilshire does have a rapid bus line, one of 22 rapid bus corridors  
> either in operation or being planned in LA County, while we have  
> yet to build, or even plan, one.
>
> As I made my way down the Market Street lane this morning, dodging  
> the pools of fetid water in the rotted pavement and double-parked  
> Fed Ex trucks and tour buses, I realized that there is absolutely  
> no sense of joy or beauty or delight involved in San Francisco bike  
> planning. The best we can do is design facilities that are  
> marginally safer than riding in mixed traffic, but what if the city  
> set out to create bike lanes and paths that are a delight to ride  
> on? The bike path along the Hudson River waterfront is designed not  
> only for safety, but is designed to be attractive and fun as well.  
> A friend from LA who lives there part time just bought a bike  
> because he liked the path so much, and wanted to be able to ride on  
> it. Will anyone look at the existing Market Street lane and say,  
> "Cool, I want to get a bike so I can ride on that!"?
>
> My friend Jeannene tells the story of going to Vancouver and seeing  
> Larry Beasley, Vancouver's Planning Director, say in a public  
> meeting "We want to design a city that delights you." When was the  
> last time you heard a bicycle, pedestrian, or transit planner here  
> speak of delight, much less lay it out as an imperative of  
> planning? When I was walking through Paris, I definitely got the  
> impression that many of the better boulevards and promenades were  
> designed to delight the walker, not just to keep us out of the way  
> of cars. The Mayor's first "clean and green" project, the median  
> landscaping and blue and gold fences (which are really there deter  
> pedestrians from jaywalking on Van Ness and messing up traffic  
> flow) are clearly aimed beyond the merely functional and are aimed  
> at delighting the motorist. So where are the projects aimed at  
> delighting bicyclists? As others have pointed out, the Panhandle  
> bike paths are rather grudging and stingy accommodations compared  
> to what they could have been, and Market Street and Embarcadero,  
> which should be our grand bike boulevards, are pretty sad.
>
> Maybe it is the bureaucratic mindset of most transportation  
> planners; I encounter the same "practical" mindset in transit  
> planning here, where Muni buses are designed without padded seats  
> so that they can be hosed down, much like the design of cattle  
> cars. Maybe our movement has set its sights too low, focusing on  
> technocratic aspects of design, and emphasizing safety while  
> forgetting the importance of amenity, not to mention beauty, joy,  
> or delight. But what is the point of living in a city that where  
> joy and delight are not imperatives? I understand that sometimes  
> incremental improvement is all we get, but there also seems to be  
> no vision for what could be. I fear we could end up with a  
> continuous bike network, but one so thin and stingy it fails to  
> attract people to bicycling.
>
> Tom Radulovich
> tomrad at well.com
>
>
>
> On Aug 23, 2005, at 10:04 PM, Jason Henderson wrote:
>
>
>
>>
>> What about a bike lane on Wilshire? That would put LA
>> ahead of San Francisco!
>>
>> I am reading "Long Emergency" by Kunstler. Anybody
>> read it?
>> -jh
>>
>> --- Tom Radulovich <tomrad at well.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> LA is creating a continuous bicycle path along the
>>> LA river, and
>>> dedicated a new "Bike Park" last month:
>>>
>>> http://www.smmc.ca.gov/PressRelease/Crystal.pdf
>>>
>>> Meanwhile, the rutted, discontinuous bike lane on
>>> Market Street has
>>> become a parking lane, with no apparent enforcement,
>>> which might just
>>> be more dangerous than no lane at all. Aargh!
>>>
>>> Tom Radulovich
>>> tomrad at well.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
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