[Carfreeliving] Pedestrian Dragged 40 feet in Sunset

[Hitesh Soneji]

The key here is responsible use of a vehicle. The blatant
lack of proper judgment in terms of when a car is necessary
for transit, and the poor habits people have developed when
using their cars is very disturbing.

Given that we are working slowly towards a better
transit/bike/walk infrastructure (which we hope will
eventually get more people unglued from their car seats) the
more pressing questions are:

1) What are the real repercussions to injuring anyone while
behind the wheel? Why are these penalties not greater? How do
we make the appropriate legislative changes or persuade DA's
to pursue these avenues of prosecution?

2) How do we change overall driver behavior? Some people are
going to be driving no matter what we do or build to enable
car free living. How do we change their behavior? How do we
get drivers to be conscious of the danger they pose?

I don't have the answers, but it would be great to brainstorm
some ideas and implementation schemes.

Hitesh Soneji


--- Joshua Hart <joshua at sfbike.org> wrote:

> Yes but a system that leaves driving as the only reasonable
> choice, 
> even for those drivers who are too old, drunk,
> irresponsible, or 
> otherwise incapable to operate what is (as you know) an
> extremely 
> dangerous mode of transportation, and refuses to deny
> licenses to even 
> those who abuse the "privelege" is a system that kills and
> injures by 
> design.  How many people would die in a United States using
> primarily 
> trains and bicycles as our main mode of transportation?   A
> lot less 
> than 50,000 I believe.
> 
> 
> Josh
> -car-free since 1999
> - sad and angry about Mike's crash and believe that if this
> woman who 
> hit him was denied a drivers license and there was better
> transit that 
> Mike would still be riding...
> -rent and drive cars when absolutely necessary
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Mar 15, 2005, at 2:27 PM, Mike Sallaberry wrote:
> 
> >
> > The utility of a car (or any object) has nothing to do
> with its 
> > potential to kill or maim someone because of how someone
> misuses it. 
> >  Trains run by negligent operators have killed more than
> a few folks - 
> > perhaps we should start a train-free living list.
> >
> > I know this is a list where we all get to freely preach
> to the choir, 
> > but  I hope our arguments to the public are a little more
> reasoned.
> >
> > Mike
> > - car-free my entire life
> > - struck and sent flying by one 10 days ago (I blame the
> driver, not 
> > the car)
> > - may one day own one
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Joshua Hart <joshua at sfbike.org>
> > Sent by: Carfreeliving-bounces at livablecity.org
> >
> > 03/15/2005 02:06 PM
> >
> > To
> > sfbcstaff at sfbike.org
> >
> > cc
> > carfreeliving at livablecity.org, Wes Kirkman
> <kirkman at walksf.org>
> >
> > Subject
> > [Carfreeliving] Pedestrian Dragged 40 feet in Sunset
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Cars are such a convenient and advanced mode of
> transportation- thank  
> >  the lord for the automobile!
> >
> >  J
> >
> >
> >
> > 
>
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/baycitynews/archive/2005/
> >  03/15/dragged15.DTL
> >
> >
> >
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