[Carfreeliving] scooters - fun to ride but...

[David Baker]

according to Jane her 2001 Ducati has an emissions package...


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	From: Carfreeliving-bounces at livablecity.org
[mailto:Carfreeliving-bounces at livablecity.org] On Behalf Of Brinkman,
Cheryl
	Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 9:13 AM
	To: Carfreeliving at livablecity.org
	Subject: Re: [Carfreeliving] scooters - fun to ride but...
	
	
	so it's as wash? they burn less gasoline, but for each gallon
burned they emit more pollutants.  Only benefit is the user saving
money.
	 
	I wish the guy in Texas had gone with his first inclination and
gotten a bicycle.  Now that would have made an interesting story.
	 
	 
	
	

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		From: Bert Hill [mailto:echill at sfhills.org] 
		Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 8:11 AM
		To: Carfreeliving at livablecity.org
		Subject: Re: [Carfreeliving] scooters - fun to ride
but...
		
		

		Same thing.  I haven't read up lately, but I think
converters and other equipment are not mandated on new motorcycles until
2007.  You can look it up on the California Air Resources Board website.

		Bert

		 

		
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		From: Carfreeliving-bounces at livablecity.org
[mailto:Carfreeliving-bounces at livablecity.org] On Behalf Of David Baker
		Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 8:02 AM
		To: Carfreeliving at livablecity.org
		Subject: Re: [Carfreeliving] scooters - fun to ride
but...

		 

		what about motorcycles?

		 

		
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		From: Carfreeliving-bounces at livablecity.org
[mailto:Carfreeliving-bounces at livablecity.org] On Behalf Of Bert Hill
		Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 7:58 AM
		To: Carfreeliving at livablecity.org
		Subject: Re: [Carfreeliving] scooters - fun to ride
but...

		Nearly all scooters pollute at up to 15x the rate of
automobiles.  Unless they are fitted with catalytic converters and other
emissions control equipment, they contribute heavily to negative health
effects. Battery technology is improving, to the point that electric
scooters can be used reliably for in-city commutes reliably.

		Bert

		 

		
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		From: Carfreeliving-bounces at livablecity.org
[mailto:Carfreeliving-bounces at livablecity.org] On Behalf Of Mike
Sallaberry
		Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 3:11 PM
		To: Carfreeliving at livablecity.org
		Subject: [Carfreeliving] scooters - fun to ride but...

		 

		
		Kinda cute story about a Texas dude who trades in his
pickup for a scooter.  We have a lot of scooters and motos here in SF
relative to most US towns, but I often wonder why scooters are not more
popular.  Not that I necessarily want a lot of them near me as I'm
cycling...at least cars are big plodding creatures that are slow to
change direction and are pretty predictable.  Scooters are more of a
hazard, in my book.  Still, they make a lot of sense for people who
don't want to give up motoring but deep down hate their cars, and could
serve as a transition tool for folks who may eventually give up the
scooter for a bicycle. 
		Mike 
		
		Here's the article 
		-> "When gas got to $1.90, I started thinking about an
alternative. 
		Half-jokingly and half-seriously, I told my wife (Beth),
'When the 
		price hits $2, I'm going to buy a bicycle.' Everything I
do is within 
		three miles of the house. The last time I filled up the
Ranger, it was 
		$50. I looked over at the guy next to me with an
Escalade (SUV), and he 
		was over $100 and still going. I said, 'This is
ridiculous.'..."
		-- Micky Shearon, Hood County, TX
	
http://www.hcnews.com/news/get-news.asp?id=11041&catid=1&cpg=get-news.as
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		Michael Sallaberry, P.E.
		Associate Transportation Engineer
		San Francisco Department of Parking and Traffic
		25 Van Ness Avenue, Suite 345
		San Francisco, CA 94102
		(415) 554 2351
		(415) 554 2352 (fax)
		Bicycle Hotline (415) 585-BIKE
		http://www.bicycle.sfgov.org

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